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Making Notes

Tuesday, October 27th, 2009

Recently had a sweat session with a guy called Johnathan on a microstakes chat group I frequent. I didn’t play live, but instead zipped through a previously played session using the PokerTracker replayer. I think this worked quite well – I wanted to do it for several reasons;

  • My play would have been natural, not effected because someone was watching
  • We could concentrate on one table at a time
  • We could skip hands where I folded preflop

The final reason is only partly a good idea – obviously you miss what the other players have done at the table. Fortunately I hadn’t filtered the session on ‘put money in’ so we did at least see hands up to the point where I folded, and it was these hands that my sweat partner bought up a good point.

In several instances there had been a couple of limpers and I folded on the button (with complete trash like 83o etc). He pointed out that since I was on the button it was still worth raising while I was building up a picture of who my opponents were. Whether they fold or call (and then what they called with) was golden information when I had no other history on these players. He pointed out that I should be really taking notes on players and try to classify them (even at NL5). As the session went on, he made me classify various players at the table – then in later hands this information made it vastly more clear why certain players were doing what they were doing. So I was convinced.

This morning I opened up a couple of tables and tried to put it into action. The note taking facility on PokerTracker isn’t that great (or at least, I haven’t got the hang of it) so I just opened up notepad and figured that would do while I only had two tables open. The first difficulty was getting time to write the notes – it was like being a multitabler newbie all over again. I need to develop some acronyms and make the notes more concise.

It worked fairly well. Players rapidly showed whether they were calling stations or loose passive way before my HUD kicked in. I adapted to what I was seeing and ended up with a flawless session. It was perhaps an easy session though – everyone seemed to be huge stereotypes of what I was looking for, and even without the note taking I would have noticed how passive some of the guys to my left were. However as a first go I’m still a believer. Furthermore, it was actually fun – I had wondered if going back down to 2 tables would be dull, but to be honest it reawakened the player in me – I suspect that multitabling has really dulled my poker senses.

What I need to do now is stick to a low number of tables and improve my speed at getting those notes down. I guess I’ve got to nail down PokerTracker’s note facility, and come up with a clear and sensible notation.

Update: So what does this mean;

tightness_scatter-0.02-0.05-nl-6-fulltilt
Meteoric’s Looseness vs. Win Rate

this one too;
aggression_scatter-0.02-0.05-nl-6-fulltilt
Meteoric’s Aggression vs. Win Rate

All the ABC poker guides say tight play is better than loose (at NL5), and agression is better than passivity. If that’s true, why don’t those scatter plots slope down from left to right? A few outliers in the top chart slightly give that impression, but really taking the image as a whole it’s generally fairly symmetric.

Sinking Without Trace

Saturday, October 24th, 2009

It’s getting worse;

24Oct09

BR is now $170, a long long way from moving back up to NL10 now :-(

Practically the very first hand went bad – I’ve AQs in the BB, folded to the SB who raises. I 3bet, he 4bets, I shove (bad?), he shows AA…

Other big losses;

  • AK flops two pair
    $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
    6 Players

    Stacks:
    UTG ($7.20)
    UTG+1 ($5.86)
    CO ($4.04)
    BTN ($7.56)
    SB ($4.71)
    Hero ($5.25)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is BB Kdiamonds poker card Aspades poker card
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.15

    Flop: Qclubs poker card Khearts poker card Ahearts poker card ($0.42, 2 players)
    Hero bets $0.30, UTG+1 raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4.17, UTG+1 goes all-in $5.66, Hero goes all-in $0.88

    Turn: Jhearts poker card ($11.13, 2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: 9hearts poker card ($11.13, 2 players, 2 all-in)

    Final Pot: $11.13
    UTG+1 shows a straight, Ace high
    10diamonds poker card Jdiamonds poker card
    Hero shows two pair, Aces and Kings
    Kdiamonds poker card Aspades poker card

    UTG+1 wins $10.43 (net +$4.57)

    Hero lost $5.25

  • Suck out
    $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
    4 Players

    Stacks:
    UTG ($1.70)
    CO ($11.68)
    Hero ($6.91)
    BB ($11.10)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.05, 4 players) Hero is BTN Jclubs poker card Ahearts poker card
    UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.16, BB calls $0.11, UTG calls $0.11

    Flop: 6clubs poker card 7spades poker card Jhearts poker card ($0.48, 3 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.34, BB folds, UTG calls $0.34

    Turn: 10hearts poker card ($1.16, 2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $0.72, UTG calls $0.72

    River: 9spades poker card ($2.60, 2 players)
    UTG goes all-in $0.48, Hero calls $0.48

    Final Pot: $3.56
    Hero shows
    Jclubs poker card Ahearts poker card
    UTG shows a straight, Jack high
    8hearts poker card 6spades poker card

    UTG wins $3.33 (net +$1.63)

    Hero lost $1.70
    BB lost $0.16

  • Failed bluff
    $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
    6 Players

    Stacks:
    UTG ($7.57)
    UTG+1 ($6.27)
    Hero ($5.50)
    BTN ($3.75)
    SB ($0.75)
    BB ($5.58)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is CO 5hearts poker card 6hearts poker card
    UTG raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20, 3 folds

    Flop: 4spades poker card 9clubs poker card 8clubs poker card ($0.47, 2 players)
    UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

    Turn: Qspades poker card ($1.07, 2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks

    River: 6clubs poker card ($1.07, 2 players)
    UTG bets $0.60, Hero raises to $2.87, UTG goes all-in $7.07, Hero folds

    Final Pot: $11.01

    UTG wins $10.56 (net +$2.99)

    Hero lost $3.37

While the few hands that went well;

  • Should’ve called turn?
    $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
    5 Players

    Stacks:
    UTG ($1.73)
    Hero ($5.63)
    BTN ($9.84)
    SB ($3.90)
    BB ($7.15)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 5 players) Hero is CO 10clubs poker card 10hearts poker card
    UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, BTN raises to $0.60, 2 folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.40

    Flop: 3diamonds poker card 10spades poker card 6spades poker card ($1.32, 2 players)
    Hero bets $0.92, BTN calls $0.92

    Turn: 2clubs poker card ($3.16, 2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero raises to $3.10, BTN folds

    Final Pot: $7.76

    Hero wins $7.35 (net +$2.73)

    UTG lost $0.05
    BTN lost $3.02

  • Lucky to catch that set
    $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
    5 Players

    Stacks:
    UTG ($6.81)
    UTG+1 ($7.31)
    CO ($5.97)
    Hero ($5)
    BB ($6.43)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.05, 5 players) Hero is BTN 2clubs poker card 2spades poker card
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

    Flop: Aclubs poker card Khearts poker card 9clubs poker card ($0.30, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.22, BB calls $0.22

    Turn: 2hearts poker card ($0.74, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

    River: 4clubs poker card ($2.14, 2 players)
    BB bets $1, Hero calls $1

    Final Pot: $4.14
    BB shows
    Kspades poker card 10clubs poker card
    Hero shows three of a kind, Twos
    2clubs poker card 2spades poker card

    Hero wins $3.87 (net +$1.80)

    BB lost $2.07

So, I’ve no idea what I’m doing anymore. I always find it hard to believe it’s just variance – it must be me playing badly. Maybe still not weak-tight enough?

Tilt – Taking it Personally

Sunday, October 18th, 2009

Crap session today – a full house beaten by quads, followed by everything going really swingy. So I decided to really try to be weak-tight and see how that would go. The swinginess stopped, but so did everything else – flatlined for the next 600 hands. I was just getting to 1k hands, and then had this hand;

$0.025/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
5 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($6.26)
UTG+1 ($1.24)
CO ($14.62)
Hero ($5)
BB ($7.25)

Pre-Flop: ($0.05, 5 players) Hero is BTN 6diamonds poker card 6spades poker card
UTG raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold

Flop: 6clubs poker card 5clubs poker card Ahearts poker card ($0.45, 2 players)
UTG bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

Turn: 7spades poker card ($1.15, 2 players)
UTG bets $0.85, Hero raises to $1.94, UTG raises to $3.85, Hero goes all-in $4.45, UTG calls $0.60

River: Kclubs poker card ($10.05, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $10.05
Hero shows
6diamonds poker card 6spades poker card
UTG shows
Qclubs poker card Aclubs poker card

UTG wins $9.38 (net +$4.38)

Hero lost $5

I then get an observer pipe up in the chatbox with ‘OWNED!’ – wtf, if that wasn’t a test of my zen control I don’t know what is. I was disappointed with the loss obviously, but I easily shrugged it off – I’m really pleased with my tilt control these days (I’m practically the most boring man on earth now!), but can’t be arsed with moron’s making comments like that. Oh well…

Misclick

Saturday, October 10th, 2009

Poker Shortcuts let me me down here;

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
4 Players

Stacks:
Hero (CO) ($5.01)
BTN ($10.29)
SB ($5.76)
BB ($8.18)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 4 players) Hero is CO Kdiamonds poker card Kspades poker card
Hero raises to $0.14, 2 folds, BB calls $0.09

Flop: Qclubs poker card 6spades poker card Aspades poker card ($0.30, 2 players)
BB bets $0.22, Hero calls $0.22

Turn: 8spades poker card ($0.74, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: Qspades poker card ($0.74, 2 players)
BB bets $0.74, Hero raises to $2.96, BB goes all-in $7.82, Hero folds

Final Pot: $11.52

BB wins $11.08 ( won +$2.90 )

Hero lost -$3.32

It moves the mouse cursor over the fold button when the table comes into focus, and after BB shoved it moved the cursor over and I ended up clicking on fold instead of call.

Did it save me from a full house though? Probably not, but depressingly I’m going to cling on to that as the rest of the session has also been a disaster, which makes a week long losing streak.

Playing Well, But Not Building Bankroll

Thursday, October 8th, 2009

Another low blog post week has gone by – I have been playing, but it’s been remarkably unexciting. The last three sessions have been particularly disappointing as I played well 99% of the time only to mess a couple of hands up in each making each come  out -ve.

The last session’s big bad hand probably wasn’t played badly if you go by pot odds though;

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Stacks:
Hero (UTG) ($9.46)
CO ($5.20)
BTN ($11.32)
SB ($2.19)
BB ($2)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 5 players) Hero is UTG 7clubs poker card 8clubs poker card
Hero raises to $0.14, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.14, SB calls $0.12, 1 fold

Flop: 10diamonds poker card Jclubs poker card Kclubs poker card ($0.47, 3 players)
SB goes all-in $2.05, Hero calls $2.05, BTN goes all-in $11.18, Hero goes all-in $7.27

Turn: 2spades poker card ($23.02, 3 players, 3 all-in)

River: 6hearts poker card ($23.02, 3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $23.02
Hero shows
7clubs poker card 8clubs poker card
BTN shows
Jhearts poker card Kdiamonds poker card
SB shows
4hearts poker card Qhearts poker card

BTN wins $21.61 ( won +$10.29 )

Hero lost -$9.46
SB lost -$2.19

However, it was a big pot to gambool on. All the worse since the gamble didn’t pay off. It was clear that I had to hit that flush to win, since it was unlikely both the other players were on a draw (and even if they were it’s really unlikely I’d have had the highest card!). Even hitting the flush was probably not a guaranteed win either (even though it turned out neither were on a flush draw). So, lost 2 buy-ins at a stroke there :-(

There have been a couple of changes in my game lately, although more experimental than definite leak fixing. The first is donk betting. More often than not if in the situation where I could donk bet I do. Either I’ve missed the flop and the preflop raiser checked, in which case I bet as a bluff, or I’ve hit the flop and I bet for value. The betting as a bluff is working out I believe – at NL5 most checks from the villain is because they’ve missed the flop (I’m not expecting this to be the case >NL10 though – too many people understand the cbet). The donk betting for value though is starting to be uncertain – it seems common opinion is it’s better to check and wait for the turn, after all only better hands would call. On the other hand, a large percentage of players will call a flop bet (dismissing it as a cbet with air) and reevaluate on the turn. I’m still unsure what my line is with donk betting really – I wish it wasn’t called donk betting though, it seems overly disparaging for what could be a reasonable line (at what times though?).

Second change is more shoves with AK – if I open with AK and get 3bet I’ll shove, whereas before I’d call and wait to hit the flop before continuing. I checked PokerTracker and found that the fold equity in the shove outweighed the losses in the flip in coming up against a pair (ie let’s assume AK vs PP cancel out, leaving plenty of profit from AK vs AQ, AJ etc and 3betters who fold). However, last three sessions my flips have all gone the wrong way, so suffering a bit from variance there (btw, calling a shove with AK is a different kettle of fish, and generally I won’t unless I’ve 3bet leaving a small relative stack behind – too many shoves are KK+ and it doesn’t seem to be worth it).

So. Bankroll is at $220, with about $30 to come in rakeback. I’m annoyed that I haven’t got to $250 from the cards themselves, but $250 is $250, and I’ll be going to NL10 as soon as that Rakeback arrives. Actually I’m also annoyed that $50 of that $220 was the Take 2 bonus, so it’s really not like I’ve played my way here :-( although filtering on my NL5 results does show a $180 win so far, and it’s only the NL10 that’s destroyed my earnings so far. Mixed feelings, but certainly not feeling that I’m beating the nanostakes game really.

Move Up, Move Down, Move Up, Move Down…

Saturday, September 26th, 2009

Again, moved up to NL10. Again, got a beating and so now I’ve got to reroll at NL5.

It was half a bad beat and half my stupidity today, so I guess I’m not too bitter about it. A KK was beat by a 22 on a 772 flop (that was the bad beat btw), and then I tried to represent a flush hitting against a guy who was clearly (so it seemed) value betting a top pair – turned out he was betting into his flush draw :-( Ill-advised move anyway though really.

So here’s my chart since the 1st June – I’ve put a red line where my move up/down between NL5 and NL10 is ($200 bankroll).

26Sept09moveupdown

Fairly depressing looking back at that, especially as it seemed that I’d really sorted out NL10 and was building to NL25. Looking back I don’t think I was beating it from skill, it was just a heater really – there was quite a few lucky suckouts to be honest.

Possibly having a single threshold for moving up isn’t a good idea – maybe I should set $250 at my move up, and $200 as my move down point. That way I’ll have a cushion of 5 buy-ins before having to move down again whereas now just one bad session sends me back to NL5 for a week…

My PokerTracker All In Performance Can’t be Working

Thursday, September 24th, 2009

So far this month my NL5 game has done ok – up $67;

24Sep09_NL5

Except I haven’t made $67 since my attempts at NL10 went wrong and I’m actually only $0.40 up :-( I guess it’s still +ve.

However it’s gets a bit shocking when you look at my all-in performance for NL5;

24Sep09_NL5-allinperformance

Clearly my PokerTracker is just plain broken. No other reason for it.

Other news – tomorrow I complete the Full Tilt Take 2 promotion, so that’s a free $50, plus rakeback is currently $25. Fantastic – if only I’d had Rakeback a year ago, it would made so much difference…


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