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Don’t Need a HUD (apparently)

Friday, December 11th, 2009

Just found a set of 2p2 posts that are interesting reading;

Destroyed 3/6, time to move up (graph)
100k hands w. aHUD

Boywonder has an amazing record and his graphs are currently showing $500k profits, which must be nice. In his earliest post he says that the key to his success is emotional stability, ie no tilt of any form. to quote him;

I still maintain that whilst the technical aspects of the game have their place, emotional control will destroy talent any day.

He also is happy to play against regs rather than fight to play only against fish, believing that too many regs become technically competent but then stagnate in their abilities due to relying on HUDs and failing to recognise their own tilt;

Q: What do you think changed your game the most in terms of becoming such a winning player?

BW: Realizing that most regulars actually were not that solid and didn´t have their own game (most just basically have picked up somebody else’s preflop game that they´ve seen on a training video and have no clue why they are doing what they are doing – postflop they are usually spewy as xxxx). When you start zoning in how to scalp the regs, that´s when you start improving and that´s when you start beating the game for more than 1 ptbb / hour. And the basis for all of this was realizing how much of my game was dependant on playing when in the right emotional state, and learning how to maintain that mindframe.

If you don’t want to read the three huge threads, then this single post from boywonder would do (this one too).

Anyway, fairly inspiring stuff (although I don’t think I’ve even got the technical side down pat yet, let alone sorting out my tilt!). I might even throw away my HUD, or at least the stats part of it (and just leave the player notes box).

(mini update: Immediately after posting this I went to see if he had gone on to produce a video (he mentioned it in a post somewhere). I searched with boywonder poker video and on the third page found my blog with this post. Fast work Google! (I guess that link probably won’t show me in the results by the time anyone else clicks on it – results move around quickly!).

Making Notes

Tuesday, October 27th, 2009

Recently had a sweat session with a guy called Johnathan on a microstakes chat group I frequent. I didn’t play live, but instead zipped through a previously played session using the PokerTracker replayer. I think this worked quite well – I wanted to do it for several reasons;

  • My play would have been natural, not effected because someone was watching
  • We could concentrate on one table at a time
  • We could skip hands where I folded preflop

The final reason is only partly a good idea – obviously you miss what the other players have done at the table. Fortunately I hadn’t filtered the session on ‘put money in’ so we did at least see hands up to the point where I folded, and it was these hands that my sweat partner bought up a good point.

In several instances there had been a couple of limpers and I folded on the button (with complete trash like 83o etc). He pointed out that since I was on the button it was still worth raising while I was building up a picture of who my opponents were. Whether they fold or call (and then what they called with) was golden information when I had no other history on these players. He pointed out that I should be really taking notes on players and try to classify them (even at NL5). As the session went on, he made me classify various players at the table – then in later hands this information made it vastly more clear why certain players were doing what they were doing. So I was convinced.

This morning I opened up a couple of tables and tried to put it into action. The note taking facility on PokerTracker isn’t that great (or at least, I haven’t got the hang of it) so I just opened up notepad and figured that would do while I only had two tables open. The first difficulty was getting time to write the notes – it was like being a multitabler newbie all over again. I need to develop some acronyms and make the notes more concise.

It worked fairly well. Players rapidly showed whether they were calling stations or loose passive way before my HUD kicked in. I adapted to what I was seeing and ended up with a flawless session. It was perhaps an easy session though – everyone seemed to be huge stereotypes of what I was looking for, and even without the note taking I would have noticed how passive some of the guys to my left were. However as a first go I’m still a believer. Furthermore, it was actually fun – I had wondered if going back down to 2 tables would be dull, but to be honest it reawakened the player in me – I suspect that multitabling has really dulled my poker senses.

What I need to do now is stick to a low number of tables and improve my speed at getting those notes down. I guess I’ve got to nail down PokerTracker’s note facility, and come up with a clear and sensible notation.

Update: So what does this mean;

tightness_scatter-0.02-0.05-nl-6-fulltilt
Meteoric’s Looseness vs. Win Rate

this one too;
aggression_scatter-0.02-0.05-nl-6-fulltilt
Meteoric’s Aggression vs. Win Rate

All the ABC poker guides say tight play is better than loose (at NL5), and agression is better than passivity. If that’s true, why don’t those scatter plots slope down from left to right? A few outliers in the top chart slightly give that impression, but really taking the image as a whole it’s generally fairly symmetric.

Playing Well, But Not Building Bankroll

Thursday, October 8th, 2009

Another low blog post week has gone by – I have been playing, but it’s been remarkably unexciting. The last three sessions have been particularly disappointing as I played well 99% of the time only to mess a couple of hands up in each making each come  out -ve.

The last session’s big bad hand probably wasn’t played badly if you go by pot odds though;

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Stacks:
Hero (UTG) ($9.46)
CO ($5.20)
BTN ($11.32)
SB ($2.19)
BB ($2)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 5 players) Hero is UTG 7clubs poker card 8clubs poker card
Hero raises to $0.14, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.14, SB calls $0.12, 1 fold

Flop: 10diamonds poker card Jclubs poker card Kclubs poker card ($0.47, 3 players)
SB goes all-in $2.05, Hero calls $2.05, BTN goes all-in $11.18, Hero goes all-in $7.27

Turn: 2spades poker card ($23.02, 3 players, 3 all-in)

River: 6hearts poker card ($23.02, 3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $23.02
Hero shows
7clubs poker card 8clubs poker card
BTN shows
Jhearts poker card Kdiamonds poker card
SB shows
4hearts poker card Qhearts poker card

BTN wins $21.61 ( won +$10.29 )

Hero lost -$9.46
SB lost -$2.19

However, it was a big pot to gambool on. All the worse since the gamble didn’t pay off. It was clear that I had to hit that flush to win, since it was unlikely both the other players were on a draw (and even if they were it’s really unlikely I’d have had the highest card!). Even hitting the flush was probably not a guaranteed win either (even though it turned out neither were on a flush draw). So, lost 2 buy-ins at a stroke there :-(

There have been a couple of changes in my game lately, although more experimental than definite leak fixing. The first is donk betting. More often than not if in the situation where I could donk bet I do. Either I’ve missed the flop and the preflop raiser checked, in which case I bet as a bluff, or I’ve hit the flop and I bet for value. The betting as a bluff is working out I believe – at NL5 most checks from the villain is because they’ve missed the flop (I’m not expecting this to be the case >NL10 though – too many people understand the cbet). The donk betting for value though is starting to be uncertain – it seems common opinion is it’s better to check and wait for the turn, after all only better hands would call. On the other hand, a large percentage of players will call a flop bet (dismissing it as a cbet with air) and reevaluate on the turn. I’m still unsure what my line is with donk betting really – I wish it wasn’t called donk betting though, it seems overly disparaging for what could be a reasonable line (at what times though?).

Second change is more shoves with AK – if I open with AK and get 3bet I’ll shove, whereas before I’d call and wait to hit the flop before continuing. I checked PokerTracker and found that the fold equity in the shove outweighed the losses in the flip in coming up against a pair (ie let’s assume AK vs PP cancel out, leaving plenty of profit from AK vs AQ, AJ etc and 3betters who fold). However, last three sessions my flips have all gone the wrong way, so suffering a bit from variance there (btw, calling a shove with AK is a different kettle of fish, and generally I won’t unless I’ve 3bet leaving a small relative stack behind – too many shoves are KK+ and it doesn’t seem to be worth it).

So. Bankroll is at $220, with about $30 to come in rakeback. I’m annoyed that I haven’t got to $250 from the cards themselves, but $250 is $250, and I’ll be going to NL10 as soon as that Rakeback arrives. Actually I’m also annoyed that $50 of that $220 was the Take 2 bonus, so it’s really not like I’ve played my way here :-( although filtering on my NL5 results does show a $180 win so far, and it’s only the NL10 that’s destroyed my earnings so far. Mixed feelings, but certainly not feeling that I’m beating the nanostakes game really.

Feeling Confident Now

Monday, February 9th, 2009

I think I have my self-destructive leaks cracked now;

09feb09

It was a fairly insane drop in the middle where my A high flush was beat by a full house, and then my QQ & JJ  was beat by AA & JJ. In both cases I lost on the river, and the money was already in the pot, so as far as I’m concerned they were played well. A little while later I took one of the villains (the two pair hand)  for his entire stack, so getting my money back plus interest – always one of the best feelings in poker – good job I always reload my stack!

So I’m now feeling confident that my big showdown light leak is fixed. I still have a few tilt problems where I fixate on an individual player (ie I’ve seen them chase draws & bet them heavily, they draw out on me a few times and that makes me bet at them even harder, and usually in bad spots – ie see Saturday), but otherwise it’s good news.

I still want to give it some more time before I return to 10NL, but it’s now a case of counting down the days rather than wondering if the problem is still there or not…

There’s More Than One Kind of Tilt

Friday, January 16th, 2009

I’ve just read a great post on 2p2 that I have to mention here.

Here’s the link.

There’s loads of posts and articles about tilt and how to deal/reduce it. The thing about this article though is how he presented two different types of tilt.

One is the usual explosive type where you mess up or variance kicks you in the balls, and you go on a stupid raise every pot rant as though you’re punishing the other players some way (yeah, like it hurts them?).

The other form is more subtle, where you build up a negative association about something that if you thought about it is irrational. Then when the stakes are high (ie huge pot, or you’ve built a big stack you don’t want to lose), you let that negative association creep in and affect your play. You’re letting your emotions make you play below par, which is tilt!

The poster ooohjoy puts it way better than me, so it’s worth a read…

Showdown Leak

Tuesday, January 13th, 2009

I’ve mentioned in previous posts that I believe my leak is that I go to showdown light. Too often I believe that the other guy is bluffing, and consequently too often I end up paying the price.

I’m not sure how to pinpoint that this is my big leak, but here’s a little experiment I did on PokerTracker;

First, filtering out all the hands where I went to showdown;

wtsd

and now filtering so that it’s showdown hands only;

showdown_only

The amounts add up to give my current $230 in the red.

So what does it mean? It looks like ‘skill’ at going to showdown has always been poor. Meanwhile in hands where I didn’t go to showdown started to take off after 5500 hands – could this match up to where I really started to understand cbetting, raising not limping etc? Hard to say when the x scale is in hands rather than date. The change from 10NL to 2NL appear in the same place on both charts (ie where it goes more smooth 2/3 along), so the overall time scale is probably relative to my all time chart. If that’s the case then the upturn does correspond my change to ‘proper’ poker play rather than limping random uneducated donk play.

It’s certainly a dramatic difference. I wonder what most people have here?

OK, let’s break it down street by street;

1st, hands that don’t see the flop. Not too surprising here – my pre-TwoPlusTwo days show a steady decline, probably from limping into pots which I then folded to a raise. Once I learnt to open-raise into a pot this went away;

notseeflop

2nd, hands that saw the flop but not the turn. What I expected really – I cbet the flop a lot, and fairly aggressively. Again it turns on once I discovered 2p2. However, am I doing this too much – should I be letting more hands play further streets to get better value?

sawflopnotturn

3rd, saw turn but not river. Ignoring the pre-2p2 rise it looks like I don’t gain much here. Why is that? I’m not sure, I need to thnk about this. Just what should it look like?

sawturnnotriver

Closer

Thursday, January 8th, 2009

I think I’m on the verge of sorting myself out at last, although not exactly completely sorted yet.

This session went ok, although made a silly blunder midway;

08jan09

I was on the button with a pair of twos, and up against a player who’d been going to showdown with lots of rubbish (and paying for it). The board came out fairly blank, although it was paired (5′s) and throughout I tried to push him off. He then put in a moderate (1/2 pot) bet on the river, and I felt obliged to call. Stupid really as my 22′s were almost certainly beat if he had made any pair. As it was he had (77′s), and I lost a biggish pot. I should have folded, but felt pot committed, which is bad :-(

However, a little later I stacked him back with KK’s over his KQ (board had a Q). He really shouldn’t have called me, but I guess he’ll learn. He chatted for a while too, which I like – online poker is so clinical that any chat is good I reckon. Unless of course someone is deliberately trying to tilt you – hate that. Once I donked two bad hands to the same player, and he said ‘thank you’ each time like I was deliberately handing over the money. Doesn’t sound much but sometimes things in the chat box can really ruin your game.

So, since that crash and restack came off the same player I guess it made no difference in the end – I would have ended up in the same place probably (since I was reloading, but he wasn’t).

Anyway, I think my improvement has come from respecting people’s raises (at 2NL!), watching out for very wet boards, and pot control when I’m looking for a draw. All three things which I’d been doing badly, which led to big showdown losses.

Other areas of my game are ok I think. I’m aggressive enough now, and my starting hands are good. It’s just been painful (read expensive!) that my big leaks were in areas that lead to crushing losses :-(


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