Returning to 6max seems to be all deja vu. I seem to have returned to my mysterious redline inversion;
I’ve googled around for reasons but it seems to be a rare thing. Possibilities are either I bluff too much or I’m too much of a calling station. From that last hand I posted it could be that I’m allowing my opponents to draw out on me too often, although I’m usually aware of pot odds and try to protect my hand against the obvious FDs & connected boards. OTOH from these two hands I could quite likely be a calling station when I have marginal hands;
- showdown hand 1
$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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6 PlayersStacks:
UTG ($5.51)
Hero ($6.82)
CO ($5.05)
BTN ($3.80)
SB ($3.09)
BB ($5.26)Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 K
J
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 1 fold, SB calls $0.13, 1 foldFlop: 5
Q
J ($0.50, 3 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.45, CO folds, SB calls $0.95Turn: 6
($3.40, 2 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50River: 9
($4.40, 2 players)
SB goes all-in $0.99, Hero calls $0.99Final Pot: $6.38
SB shows a pair of Queens
Q 8
Hero shows
K JSB wins $5.96 (net +$2.87)
Hero lost $3.09
CO lost $0.15
- showdown hand 2
$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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6 PlayersStacks:
UTG ($4.05)
UTG+1 ($3.19)
CO ($3.28)
Hero ($5.20)
SB ($9.09)
BB ($3.63)Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is BTN A
4
2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, CO calls $0.10Flop: 3
2 4 ($0.37, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.37, CO calls $0.37Turn: Q
($1.11, 2 players)
CO bets $1.11, Hero calls $1.11River: 3
($3.33, 2 players)
CO goes all-in $1.65, Hero calls $1.65Final Pot: $6.63
Hero shows
A 4
CO shows two pair, Queens and Threes
Q JCO wins $6.19 (net +$2.91)
Hero lost $3.28
I looked through nonshowdown hands, and it’s almost all flop cbets, with a few like this;
- non-showdown hand 1
$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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6 PlayersStacks:
UTG ($6.54)
UTG+1 ($0.38)
CO ($4.48)
Hero ($5.87)
SB ($9.82)
BB ($7.12)Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is BTN K
A
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BB calls $0.10Flop: J
6 Q ($0.32, 2 players)
BB bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, BB foldsFinal Pot: $0.92
Hero wins $0.88 (net +$0.28)
BB lost $0.30
- non-showdown hand 2
$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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6 PlayersStacks:
UTG ($5.22)
UTG+1 ($3.45)
CO ($12.59)
Hero ($5.13)
SB ($9.24)
BB ($14.46)Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is BTN A
10
UTG raises to $0.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10, 2 foldsFlop: 9
9 7 ($0.27, 2 players)
UTG bets $0.14, Hero raises to $0.40, UTG foldsFinal Pot: $0.81
Hero wins $0.78 (net +$0.28)
UTG lost $0.24
so I kinda suspect my non-showdown stuff where I’m catching obvious bluffs is actually good, and if I were to sort out my CS tendencies it would still remain a solid +ve (or at least breakeven) line (obviously reduced since I’ll be folding those pots I’m currently calling).
Plus fwiw here’s some stats;
1st hand flop raise in 3way pot w/ 2nd pair is supergross, esp. given that sb donks pot into 2 people. here are my stats btw: http://i37.tinypic.com/10ndb3k.jpg
Call & re-evaluate on turn then, or just fold? I am watching the hud quite closely now which is helping fairly often. I’d like a donk flop % stat, although not much room on there.
My stats don’t look too bad against that range column (you’re a cbet flop maniac though!).
I’ve just realised a subtlety on the definition of a donk bet. I’d assumed if someone lead out OOP then that was a donk bet, but the definition really is that if they weren’t the preflop raiser and lead out. So if CO opens, you call on btn, and then preflop CO leads out it’s not a donk bet.
So it’s not a position thing, but an initiative thing. However why would the CO’s lead be better than a BB who called the btn’s raise? Something to do with a passive call followed by a pretence of strength maybe?
because CO didnt have to VP$IP as fold didnt cost him any money and since BB didn’t raise him preflop he must have stronger hand. donking into preflop raiser is suboptimal(thats why it’s called “donk” bet) because with strong hand it’s better to c-r and if you donk and preflop raiser raises you, he represents much stronger range. also he can represnt much more by just calling donk bets IP.
and yea, recently im cbetting like a monkey because people keep folding to my cbets. i cbet 1/2 pot or even less but my cbet success is >33% so it’s not a big deal. my flop fold vs cbet is low and respectively flop agg% is high because obviously i don’t fold vs 1BB donk bets which are too frequent at these stakes