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Clearing Bonuses at NL2, NL5, NL10 etc

Full Tilt have just given a $100 promotion as many of you probably know. However even though I’ve moved back to NL10 it’s going to be heavy going to get all that monies.

The problem is that these microstakes just don’t generate enough frequent player points to clear the bonus effectively. For instance Last night I had an hour long session at NL10 on 3 tables – this cleared about $2 of the bonus. I’ve a month to clear $100 – not going to happen! Fortunately it comes in $10 payments so I should clear some of it (maybe half?), but it’s frustrating to see that free money just out of reach.

This is where a happy coincidence of my rakeback research and some correspondence with S1ndr0me this morning comes together for a possible solution;

Clearing the bonus is linked to frequent player points (or Full Tilt Points), which are 1 point for every $1 paid in rake. Full Tilt uses the dealt method for Rake (see my last post), so you don’t actually have to put any money in the pot to be attributed with that rake, you just have to have the cards dealt to you.

So, if you sat at a higher stakes full ring table and played super tight (QQ+), you’d be clearing that bonus far faster than if you played your normal 6max manic shove fest at NL5. To make it cost effective though, you have to avoid losing too many blinds, otherwise your losses will be more than the bonus you’re trying to clear.

So what would it take to be worthwhile. It has to be a ‘dealt method’ rake site obviously. You obviously have to be absolutely self-controlled. Playing hands out of your bankroll is going to be suicidal – the aim of this exercise is to be dealt lots of hand and lose nothing, not to win $$$. The loss will come from two things – losing your blinds, and losing the hands you do play. The latter is usual shortstack strategy – you’ll only be playing premiums like QQ+, which will at least win you the blinds. The former is not so easy since as a short stack you’ll have almost no fold equity and so stealing from late position isn’t going to be so easy. That means it’s possible to have a stack that’s *too* small. Playing above your bankroll the big drain will be the blinds, so it’s a fine balance between a safe stack size and the gain from the rake. The usual 20bb may be enough, but it’ll be the absolute minimum. However increasing it to improve your fold equity also increases your losses when those premo hands get sucked out on.

To sum up the strategy, table select the tables with the highest average pot. It has to be full ring obviously (Edit: not so obvious actually – the dealt rake is split between the players, so a FR player has 1/9 of the rake in a pot, while a 6max player has 1/6 – the balance comes down to loss due to blinds versus gain from less players. I’ll have to think about this). I’m undecided as to whether it should be 20bb or 50bb buy-ins – I’ll need to experiment as to whether 20bb has any stealing potential or not (possibly there’s a reason to pick the nittiest tables too, but not sure yet). SSS strategy has to be followed religiously, although I’d drop all unpaired hands other than AK, and PP under TT – having said that some risks would have to be taken to steal blinds from the button (actually CO maybe more effective since everyone knows the BTN is on a steal). Equally leaving the table on doubling up is also mandatory.

All that’s left is to try it out. If it works on this Full Tilt holiday bonus then it may be worthwhile signing up at the other ‘dealt method’ sites (Cake does it I believe), and do a bit of early bonus whoring. While being at microstakes the boost this would give my BR would be far more meaningful than when I’m doing ‘standard’ bonus whoring at NL100+.

However, I did mentioned this to S1ndr0me, and he’s tried the short stack strategy on and off and doesn’t think it’s a good idea. I can see where he’s coming from since SSS is fairly high variance really. I’ll proceed with caution I guess…

Edit: for those landing here from Google, my results from trying it out are here.

5 Responses to “Clearing Bonuses at NL2, NL5, NL10 etc”

  1. S1ndr0me says:

    I think the biggest problem is the amount short stackers that are out there all trying to get a piece of the “easy” action. you gotta look at the stack sizes @ the table. no more that 2 other SSS’ers. preferably you would be sitting down as the 2nd. When you are shortstacking you are practically committing yourself/your stack once you have raised preflop. As you are going to be cbetting a high percentage of flops regardless of whether you hit. so if you start the hand with 20BB and raise 4-5 depending on limpers. that leaves you with 16BB and a pot of 8-10BB. your 3/4 pot Cbet is 7BB which is nearly half your stack and if the bet size is around half your stack you need to shove. as you have a little FE. You need to re-buy every orbit so you have a full stack and I’d leave and try another table after 5BB worth of topups. You wanna leave everytime you win a shove and if you have over 30ish BB. It’s very similar to the push fold phase of a tourny. Its OK to shove your pair of 8′s into his AQo. you are playing a lot of flips and hoping to get your share of luck.

  2. Andrew says:

    Unless I’m missing something obvious, I can’t see an email address for you ?

  3. Daly says:

    Hello mate, i play on full tilt and have managed to achive iron man even when playing NL10, it basically takes 90 minutes 9 tabling – so basically you need to add more tables – even then its gonna be a grind to hit the 1700 points as 50 a day would mean 34 days of play

  4. Paul says:

    Please post how its going. I am interested as I am trying the same thing to try and clear more of the bonus as I am typically a $2NL micro donk.

    I have been playing $25 NL HE and also Omaha 8 $25 buying in for the minimum $5. So far have cleared about $4.50 of the bonus in two days playing about two hours per day 2 tables at a time. Went up $5 the first day and lost most of it the second. The variance seems like it could be brutal.

    Also I have noticed the short stackers out number to big stacks much of the time which can’t be good for this strategy.

  5. Meteoric says:

    I’ve been away last couple of days, so should be able to give it a go now (well, almost – I’m going to upgrade to W7 today, so it might have to wait until tomorrow!). Will keep you all updated on progress.

    But, it does sound like SSS maybe to high on variance. Full stack playing as a rock maybe? Not sure I want to layout too much on the tables like that…


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